Windows 8

#3nikana - 1 day 18 hours

Well this is the first time I have been here, but sadly it will be my last. 95% of what is stated in this article is false. You simply do not know how to use Windows 8. Just like every other person who says Windows 8 is crap, you installed it for 10 minutes, decided not to learn how to use it, and are now saying its crap.

#10McG46 - 1 day 15 hours

This is Tim Edwards second article slating Windows 8. If its you're opinion that Win8 is terrible thats fine but you seem to have an agenda.You may not believe this but there are ppl out there who respect the views published on this site and they will see your article and be put off EVER trying or even giving Win8 a fair shake. I've read both articles you have wrote on this site about Win8 and found them the most biased things I've ever seen on a PC review site. Where is your journalistic impartial professionalism? Its all just "I hate this!" "I dont like this because its different!" and the saddest comment of the lot "you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture" when talking about switching apps. That comment right there should have shown whoever your editor is that you shouldn't be publishing an article on win8 AT ALL! in fact if you find moving a mouse to the left of your screen "convoluted" you should maybe seek work in an other industry because obviously basic PC skills are beyond you. Change is always hard for ppl, but to call Win8 "baffling to use" is again another incredible comment from a man earning a living using a computer. I have used Win8 now for a few weeks and if anything MS dumbed it down making it EASIER to use, again HOW IS IT BAFFLING? I totally agree with nikana's comments this is a terrible article filled with biased uninformed information.

#12Joe_HTH - 1 day 13 hours

LOL! This article is such bullshit and is filled with so many lies. The author doesn't even know how to use the damn OS. Let me obliterate some of this idiot's arguments.

"If you want to start Steam, you’ll want to launch the Desktop app, and then launch Steam."

Bullshit!! You can start Steam from a tile, without even going into the desktop.

"If you want to swap between apps, you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture - move the mouse to the top left of the screen, and then down to select the window."

Try Alt-tab dumba$$.

"It’s harder than ever to turn the sodding thing off"

You're kidding right.

Keep trying. Articles like this make me laugh.

#14distilld - 1 day 9 hours


"If you want to start Steam, you'll want to launch the Desktop app, and then launch Steam."

- Clicking on a tile for a "regular" application in the Start menu will launch the application on your desktop and close the Start menu. Alternatively, while the Start menu is open, you could simply start typing the word "Steam" and after a few keys hit Enter to launch it.


"If you want to swap between apps, you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture - move the mouse to the top left of the screen, and then down to select the window."

- Alt + Tab still works. Windows + Tab is a new alternative shortcut that will let you view, switch between, apps open on a given monitor. On that note, you failed to point out the improvements Microsoft made to multi-monitor support (for instance, the ability to display the task bar on all monitors).


"I've discovered more than anything that you spend more time fiddling with their arrangement than actually doing anything useful with them."

- Is this really a valid complaint about Windows 8? The fact that you can't find an arrangement that suits your personal taste feels irrelevant to me. I could spend all day finding the perfect way to arrange my windows on Windows 7 -- but I choose not to.


"Core apps that offer basic OS functionality are Metro only. And they’re awful

[...]

The email app is awful

[...]

The messages app is bafflingly terrible

[...]

The Calendar is unworkable

[...]

The video and music players are abysmal"

- This entire section is a review of the apps that come with Windows 8, not Windows 8 itself. To review the apps on their own is fair, but don't turn them into a red herring. These apps are in no way forced on you -– there are plenty of desktop-based alternatives out there.


"All of my music and video is stored on a Network Attached Storage device - but the Windows Video and Music players can’t seem to index those files."

- I don't know if you use Windows 7 or not, but in order for Windows Search to index network drives you need to mark the drive as "Always Available Offline". If you're more familiar with Windows Media Player, just use that instead (it's still there – just type "Windows Media Player" in the start menu).


"Internet Explorer just needs to stop"

- As a web developer, I think IE10 is a big step in the right direction for Microsoft (albeit a little late in the game). That said, if you'd prefer to use Chrome (as I do), why not just uninstall IE? Just open the control panel (type "Control Panel" with the Start menu open and it will come up), then click "Uninstall a program" > "Turn Windows Features on or off", and uncheck the box next to "Internet Explorer 10". If that process seems familiar to you – it should. It hasn’t changed at all from Windows 7.


"Desktop windows have got more complicated and less useful"

- Criticism of the ribbon is completely fair. It is controversial – I'm not even sure what I think of it yet. Fortunately it collapses so it's not wasting space when you don't need it. But you're right, it might take an extra second or two the first few times you use it to get oriented. I'm not sure what you mean by "randomly placed icons". Little more than a quick glance is necessary to see that each icon is labelled.


"There are random and delightful bugs and compatibility issues"

- You have a long way to go to prove that the bugs you're experiencing are either common or entirely Microsoft's fault. Out of curiousity, how many drivers did you need to install? I didn't need to install anything – it all just worked. Even on Windows 7 I used to need to install video drivers before all four of my monitors would work properly. What were you installing it onto? Any chance it could be your hardware, and not the operating system?


"If you’re using Metro apps, there is no clock"

- It will appear in the lower left corner of your screen when you mouse over the charms bar. A tip, though, in case you want to take a quick glance at the clock in the task bar: simply press Windows + D to go straight to the desktop, check the time, then press it again to return to the app you were in.



There are 1,633 words in this review (excluding a duplicated sentence in your introduction). 897 (~45%) of them review the apps that come bundled with Windows 8 that can easily be removed and or replaced. If it was easier for you to go back to whichever operating system you used before than it was for you to uninstall a few apps, then I find it really hard to believe you ever intended to give Windows 8 a real chance.


Själv är jag lite sugen på Win8, samt tänkt köpa en win phone 8 lur i höst om nu Nokia släpper en flerkärnig med pureview.

Skulle även kunna tänka mig en Surface med win8.
 
För att dra en klassisk internetanalogi med bilar så undrar jag om det kan vara så att datorer nu varit en naturlig del av människors vardag så länge att nya finesser och GUIn inte går hem som försäljningsknep?

Det är helt ok att snygga till saker, det SKA ske dessutom så man känner att det är nyheter.

Men det här att bygga om stora delar och flytta på saker tror jag inte på. Redan från WinXP till sjuan så började man pussla om så man var tvungen att hitta nya vägar fram för att göra samma sak som funkat sen Win95 i stort sett.

Nu till bilanalogin som jag förstår att ni väntat på: Ingen skulle acceptera att ratten helt plötsligt satt i baksätet (jo, nån skum typ som vill ge sken av att bli runtskjutsad av osynlige mannen kanske). Eller att växelspaken helt plötsligt sitter på vänstersidan om förarplatsen. Eller att någon skiftat plats på blinkers- och torkarreglage.

Men på mjukvarusidan är det alltid tvärtom. Där är det alla som inte är intresserade av förändringar som ska tvingas lära om, annars är man teknikfientlig eller whatever.

Det här inlägget ska egentligen inte läsas som om det berörde Win8, jag har bara sett någon demo på youtube, utan jag tror att det rent generellt inte kommer funka att ändra för mycket vid uppdateringar. Lägga till nya sätt är ju alltid ok, men det är när man vägrar människor att göra som de alltid gjort det blir sura miner.
 
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