Terrordåd i Oslo?

[Biltmore]

Lite Norges svar på Hamilton.....men på fel sätt

 

[BoSoZoKu]

bara att kolla in denna tråd som 'bara' är på 5, 6 sidor. hade gärningsmannen varit ett av 'skäggen' skulle antalet sidor säkert vara uppe i 30, 40 sidor.

Jaså? 141 inlägg efter 32 timmar i den här tråden. Stockholmsbombartråden hade 141 inlägg efter 39 timmar. http://www.sporthoj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235259&page=8

Dessutom i semestertider och helg vilket kraftigt sänker aktiviteten på SH. Två helt skilda händelser, men ändå.

Livlig fantasi precis som lille korvgubbe ja...

 

[BoSoZoKu]

Resonemanget känns väl igen från vissa i OT^2-forumet, som mer eller mindre precis uttryckt samma sak om svensk media.

Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!! Har folk uttryckt negativa saker om svensk media!!!!??? Här på SH!!!?! Det lär ju garanterat finnas en jävla massa iskalla massmördare här med andra ord.





Det var ironi. Det tror jag du förstod. Men du gör alltså en sån koppling på fullaste allvar? Det är fan skrämmande.

 

[xibalba]

a. Create and wear a police combat uniform replica. Make serious efforts in recreating
credible insignias, ID and marks. Study media pics of SWAT agents from your country.
This will create confusion and hesitation when engaging hostile agents and should buy
you at least 1-2 extra seconds. These extra seconds will give you the edge you need in
order to neutralise any potential threat (2 head shots). The police illusion will also act as
a deterrent towards preventing potential civilian charges.

Från filen

 

[BoSoZoKu]

Från filen

Herrejävlar vad han planerade allt noga. Vi ska nog vara tacksamma för att de flesta islamisterna inte är lika skarpa.

Nån som vet om det har det framkommit hur själva gripandet gick till?

 

[dn-L]

..raljerar över att det för en gångs skull inte är en islamist som utfört dådet.

För en gångs skull? Hur många fler dåd av det här slaget har vi råkat ut för i vår lilla del av världen?

 

[BoSoZoKu]

För en gångs skull? Hur många fler dåd av det här slaget har vi råkat ut för i vår lilla del av världen?

Vår del av världen? Dör inte folk i andra länder av bomber också?

De första jämförbara dåd jag kommer att tänka på är väl Madrid, London, Bali och NY.

Men tänker man lite utanför vår lilla ankdamm så har du väl några såna här dåd varje vecka Irak, Pakistan etc. För att inte tala om alla dåd som utförts i Israel genom åren.

Samma utövare. Och inte fan är de frimurare.

Största skillnaden mellan alla de exempel jag nämner och det norska är väl att detta dådet faktiskt var riktat mot ett något mer specifikt mål även om han uppenbarligen sket i vem som råkade komma i vägen.

 

[BostonGurka]

Vilket j-a skämt den här tråden blev då. Korvgubbe och Co sitter och tokrunkar och verkligen raljerar över att det för en gångs skull inte är en islamist som utfört dådet. Riktigt osmakligt måste jag säga.

Kan ni på allvar påstå att ni inte själva blev förvånade när det kom fram att det inte var Al Quaida eller liknande organisation (ja det finns ett antal) som utförde det här dådet?

Nån drog massa pluspoäng på att folk anser att det är en (eller möjligen två/tre) galning som gjort det här. Är det inte det då? Eller är det kanske nån ny världsomspännande kristen organisation med miljontals supportrar som har gått ut i heligt krig?

Ni fantiserar så mycket och drar så många osakliga paraller så jag snart spyr. Snacka om att försöka dra nytta av den här tragedin i eget syfte. Påminner väldigt mycket om hur ni själva brukar anklaga nasseorganisationer och annat bös. Nu får ni faktiskt ta och skärpa er och visa offren lite respekt.


Btw korvgubbe, du som klumpade ihop hans åsikter med en massa andra personer och likställde folk med terroristen och hade dig. Tror du alla frimurare är potentiella massmördare/terrorister också? Och han kanske var med i en schackklubb också. Hur är det med dem?

Muppigt också av någon att anklaga Guw för rasism när han i tidigare inlägg skrivit det exakt motsatta. Läs vad han skriver istället för att göra som korvgubbe.

Kan DU på allvar påstå att DU blev förvånad när det kom fram att han är GRÖNSAKSODLARE!

 

[xibalba]

Nån som vet om det har det framkommit hur själva gripandet gick till?

Han ringde själv polisen om jag förstod det rätt.

Han beskriver även i texten att en eventuell rättegång är ett bra propagandavapen.

 

[Kalle_rs]

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6560898/2083_A_European_Declaration_of_Independence

Edit:
Suspekt att den blev uppladdad
Uppladdad:
2011-07-23 23:12:08 GMT
Av:
Anonymous

Och SVD skriver om det 23 juli 2011 kl 23:10

Varför är det suspekt?
Den blev skickad till massa finnländare en timme innan bomben.

 

[dn-L]

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Samma utövare. Och inte fan är de frimurare.

Vanu,var det norrmän som utförde allt det?!

 

[BoSoZoKu]

Han ringde själv polisen om jag förstod det rätt.

Ok, måste iofs varit en jävla massa som ringde till polisen från Utöya. Vilket får mig att undra över om någon även använde mobilen till att filma honom.

Han beskriver även i texten att en eventuell rättegång är ett bra propagandavapen.

Kan ju vara det han var ute efter också. Att få komma till tals i en rättegång alltså. Att döda nån är förstås inte rätt. Än mindre att döda urskiljingslöst. Men frågan kvarstår. Vad är det som driver honom och malmöskytten till att göra såna här saker? Det är ju naturligtvis inte SD:s eller Fremskrittspartiets framgångar som triggar sånt här. Som vissa förnekare försöker få det till. Ett rent idiotiskt påstående. Snarare är väl deras framgångar ett annat uttryck med samma orsak.

Naturligtvis är det en frustration över en ansvarslös politik och ett medieetablissemang och makt som ljuger och förnekar. För det gör de, och om man nu absolut måste söka en orsak till varför vissa dårar nu triggas så bör nog politikerna rannsaka sig själva först innan de så snabbt skyller på andra. Det skulle inte förvåna mig om det faktiskt kommer fler såna här saker, om än i mindre skala, ju längre vanskötseln pågår. Det finns många idioter och psykfall även i Sverige.

 

[BostonGurka]

Har norrmannen sagt sig företräda kristendomen och göra vad han har gjort i kristendomens namn?

Ja det har han.

Christian justification of the struggle


“Rise up O Lord, and may thy enemies be dispersed and those who hate thee be driven
from thy face. “
Psalm 67, Vulgate (also from Book of Numbers)
3.148 Pope Urban II and Pope Innocent III granted indulgence to all future
Crusaders (martyrs of the Church)
In 1095 during the Council of Clermont, Pope Urban II declared that he remitted all
penance incurred by anyone (crusaders) who participated in the first crusade.
The Pope dispenses indulgences from a reservoir of grace tied to martyrs of the church,
those men and women who, by virtue of their suffering, assists in the intercession for all
Christians. In the 12th Century, Pope Innocent III, expanded the Crusade indulgence to
include anyone assisting with such endeavours.
Indulgences
An indulgence is the full or partial remission of temporal punishment due for sins which
have already been forgiven. The indulgence is usually granted by the church after the
sinner has confessed and received absolution. The exception is actions committed by
those men and women who, by virtue of their suffering, assists in the intercession for all
Christians (participates in Crusades, activities which involve protection of Christians,
Christian interests or Christendom itself). Indulgences draw on the storehouse of merit
acquired by Jesus' sacrifice and the virtues and penances of the saints and martyrs. They
are granted for specific good works and prayers.
Indulgences replace the shortening of those penances that was allowed at the
intercession of those imprisoned and those awaiting martyrdom for the faith.
Crusading is not just a right, but a duty according to Canon Law
Canon Law, the ecclesiastical law of the Catholic Church, is a fully developed legal
system, with all the necessary elements: courts, lawyers, judges, a fully articulated legal
code and principles of legal interpretation. The academic degrees in canon law are the
J.C.B. (Juris Canonici Baccalaureatus, Bachelor of Canon Law, normally taken as a
graduate degree), JCL (Juris Canonici Licentiatus, Licentiate of Canon Law) and the
J.C.D. (Juris Canonici Doctor, Doctor of Canon Law). Because of its specialised nature,
advanced degrees in civil law or theology are normal prerequisites for the study of canon
law.
- Book IV - Function of the Church (Cann. 834 - 848)
- Part I. The Sacraments
- Title IV. The Sacramento of Penance (Cann. 959 - 997)
Indulgences
Can. 992 An indulgence is the remission before God of temporal punishment for sins
whose guilt is already forgiven, which a properly disposed member of the Christian
faithful gains under certain and defined conditions by the assistance of the Church which
as minister of redemption dispenses and applies authoritatively the treasury of the
satisfactions of Christ and the saints.
Can. 993 An indulgence is partial or plenary insofar as it partially or totally frees from
the temporal punishment due to sins.
Can. 994 Any member of the faithful can gain partial or plenary indulgences for oneself
or apply them to the dead by way of suffrage.
Can. 995 §1. In addition to the supreme authority of the Church, only those to whom
this power is acknowledged in the law or granted by the Roman Pontiff can bestow
indulgences.
§2. No authority below the Roman Pontiff can entrust the power of granting indulgences
to others unless the Apostolic See has given this expressly to the person.
Can. 996 §1. To be capable of gaining indulgences, a person must be baptised, not
excommunicated, and in the state of grace at least at the end of the prescribed works.
§2. To gain indulgences, however, a capable subject must have at least the general
intention of acquiring them and must fulfil the enjoined works in the established time and
the proper method, according to the tenor of the grant.
Can. 997 As regards the granting and use of indulgences, the other prescripts contained
in the special laws of the Church must also be observed.
Other popes who called for a Crusade
Pope Nicholas V ordered an immediate counter-attack after the fall of Constantinople in
1453. As Pope Pius II, the same Aeneas Silvius declared a crusade in 1459 for the
recapture of Constantinople, but any genuine enthusiasm that existed was short-lived,
and a crusade never came into effect.
Unofficial crusades (not sanctioned by the Pope)
The most recent ”unofficial Crusade” were Russian military defensive campaigns against
the Ottoman Caliphate in the 19th century which resulted in a Russian victory. However,
hadn’t it been for Disraeli Britain’s defence of the Muslims (see Congress of Berlin),
Constantinople would have been brought back to Christian hands.
Entertaining ideas of launching defensive crusader campaigns to take back former
Christian territories has become politically incorrect in the Western world after Turkey
emerged with a so called ”secular republic constitution”. This, despite the fact that they
have continued their Jihadi pogroms against Christian minorities until this very day.
Sources:
Canon Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Canon_Law
Council of Clermont http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Clermont
Indulgences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgences
Would Pope Benedict XVI take the initiative for launching a new crusade?
Not likely. The closest Pope Benedict has come to anything controversial was his
statement in a lecture delivered on September 12th 2006. Pope Benedict XVI quoted from
a dialogue that occurred in 1391 between Manuel II Palaiologos[1], the Byzantine
Emperor, and a Persian scholar and recorded in a book by Manuel II (Dialogue 7 of
Twenty-six Dialogues with a Persian) in which the Emperor stated:
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only
evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
Many Muslims were offended by what was perceived as a denigration of Muhammad, and
many reacted violently. Several churches were burned and many Christians were killed in
multiple locations in the Middle East (including a nun). In his book, Manuel II then
continues, saying:
“God is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith
is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to
speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable
soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of
threatening a person with death...”
As a result of this controversy the Pope had to indirectly apologise and has since that
time not tried to do anything of significance to prevent the ongoing Global Jihad against
Christians or the ongoing Islamic colonisation of Europe. As such, Pope Benedict has
abandoned Christianity and all Christian Europeans and is to be considered a cowardly,
incompetent, corrupt and illegitimate Pope much like his most recent predecessors; John
XXIII (1958-1963), Paul VI (1963-1978), John Paul I (1978), John Paul II (1978-2005).
If Pope Benedict had any shred of integrity he would at least attempt to contact all
European senior and junior military officers and ask them to inintialise coups against the
given multiculturalist European regimes and contribute to repell Islam from Europe for a
third time. Pope Benedict, as his most recent predecessors, have failed to identify
multiculturalism as an anti-European hate ideology championed as an instrument for
unilaterally dismantling European Christendom. As of now, no Pope have even attempted
to reach out to all European military leaders and demand action against the cultural
Marxist/multiculturalist elites who have implemented given ideology. Pope Benedict has a
responsibility to act against the deliberate and systematical annihilation of European
Christendom. Yet he has not even tried to do anything of significance.
When we, the cultural conservatives of Europe seize power in approximately 5-7
decades, we will take the necessary steps to eradicate the corruption which is continuing
to plague the Church (both the Catholic and Protestant church). We must ensure that we
have Christian leaders who believe in; self defence, protection of Eastern Christendom
and the protection of Christians worldwide.
Source:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_II_Palaiologos

 

[BostonGurka]

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3.149 The Bible and self-defence
Many Christians claim that acts of self-defence are unbiblical, unscriptural and ungodly.
However, they are un-doubtfully wrong.
The Bible couldn't be clearer on the right, even the duty; we have as Christians to self-
defence.
Let's start in the Old Testament.
Exodus 22:2"If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no
blood be shed for him,"
we are told in Exodus 22:2. The next verse says,
"If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be bloodshed for him; for he should make full
restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft."
In other words, it was perfectly OK to kill a thief breaking into your house. That's the
ultimate expression of self-defence. It doesn't matter whether the thief is threatening
your life or not. You have the right to protect your home, your family and your property,
the Bible says.
The Israelites were expected to have their own personal weapons. Every man would be
summoned to arms when the nation confronted an enemy. The people defended
themselves.
Samuel 25:13: ”David said to his men, "Each of you gird on his sword." So each man
girded on his sword. And David also girded on his sword, and about four hundred men went
up behind David while two hundred stayed with the baggage.”
Every man had a sword and every man picked it up when it was required.
Judges 5:8: "They chose new gods; then was war in the gates: was there a shield or spear
seen among forty thousand in Israel?"
Reminds us of what happens to a foolish nation that chooses to disarm. The answer to
the rhetorical question is clear: No. The people had rebelled against God and put away
their weapons of self-defence.
Psalms 144:1: "Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and
my fingers to fight,"
Clearly, this is not a pacifist God we serve. It's God who teaches our hands to war and
our fingers to fight. Over and over again throughout the Old Testament, His people are
commanded to fight with the best weapons available to them at that time.
And what were those weapons? Swords.
They didn't have firearms, but they had side-arms. In fact, in the New Testament, Jesus
commanded His disciples to buy them and equip them.
Luke 22:36: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and
likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Matthew 26:52-54: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for
all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Thinkest thou that I cannot now
pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? But
how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?"
If you read those verses in context they support the position of self-defence. Jesus told
Peter he would be committing suicide to choose a fight in this situation, as well as
undermining God's plan to allow Jesus' death on the cross and resurrection.
Jesus told Peter to put his sword in its place – at his side. He didn't say throw it away.
After all, He had just ordered the disciples to arm themselves. The reason for the arms
was obviously to protect the lives of the disciples, not the life of the Son of God. What
Jesus was saying was: "Peter, this is not the right time for a fight."
In the context of cultural conservative Europeans current war against the cultural
Marxist/multiculturalist elites and the ongoing Islamic invasion through Islamic
demographic warfare against Europe, every military action against our enemies is
considered self defence. There will be much suffering and destruction but eventually we
will succeed and may be able to start rebuilding.
We should recall Nehemiah, who rebuilt the walls of Jerusalem.
Nehemiah 4:17-18: "Those who were rebuilding the wall and those who carried burdens
took their load with one hand doing the work and the other holding a weapon”. ”As for the
builders, each wore his sword girded at his side as he built,...”
More information about Christianity and self-defence
There are many passages that talk about war and violence that God approves of, such as
David slaying Goliath (1 Samuel 17). Not to mention the fact that God commanded the
Israelites to completely destroy everyone and everything in the Promised Land!
As with many questions in our lives, self-defence has to do with wisdom, understanding,
and tact. For instance, in the Luke 22 passage stated above, Jesus does tell his disciples
to get a sword. Jesus knew that now was the time when Jesus would be threatened (and
later killed) and his followers would be threatened as well. Jesus was giving approval of
the fact that one has the right to self-defence. Now just a few verses later we see Jesus
being arrested and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone’s ear. Jesus rebukes him
for that act. Why? Peter was trying to stop something that Jesus had been telling His
disciples was in fact going to happen. In other words, Peter was acting unwisely in the
situation. He was trying to stop something that was not supposed to be stopped. We
must be wise as to when to fight and when not to.
Exodus 22 does show quite a bit about God’s attitude towards self-defence. "If a thief is
caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;
but if it happens after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed. A thief must certainly make
restitution, but if he has nothing, he must be sold to pay for his theft” (Exodus 22:2-3).
Obviously here we see that when a thief breaks into someone’s house at night and that
person defends his home and slays the thief, God does not hold that death over the
defender’s head. However, God does not wish for anyone to take law into his or her own
hands. This is why it is said that if a thief is struck down during the daylight the defender
is guilty of bloodshed. Now this is speaking of thievery, not an attack. So if the thief were
to attack the defender even during the day, self-defence would be justified.
Battle verses
"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." (James 4:7)
"If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them ... you shall
eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. I will give peace in the land, and
you shall lie down, and none will make you afraid; I will rid the land of evil beasts, and the
sword will not go through your land. You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall
by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you
shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you."
(Leviticus 26:3)
God will anoint you with his power to go into battle
If you are operating under a full surrender with God the Father, and walking in all of
God's ways and staying out of any serious sins and transgressions against Him - then the
next thing you will need to fully realise is that God will now anoint you with His power if
you are forced to go into battle with your enemy.
The Bible tells us that we are now all good soldiers of Jesus Christ. Whether we want to
face up to it or not, we are all living in a war zone as a result of the curse of Adam and
Eve that is still in full operation on this earth. Anyone of us at anytime can come under
human or demonic attack. The daily news will prove that to you without any shadow of a
doubt.
Each Christian must now make their own personal decision on all of this. You
can either choose to learn how to rise up in the power of your Lord and Saviour
and learn how to become a true warrior in the Lord, or you can continue to keep
your head in the sand and oppressor after oppressor keep beating you down.
The choice is yours.
The following verses will show you that God can anoint you with His power to defeat any
enemy that may come your way - but you first have to be willing to step into that
anointing, and then be willing to take your enemy head on before God will release His
anointing through you to be able to defeat that enemy.
Again, study these verses very carefully - as they will show you the incredible
supernatural power that God can channel through you if you would be willing to step into
and walk with His anointing.
No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue which rises against
you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
and their righteousness is from me," says the Lord. (Isaiah 54:17)
"... but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great
exploits." (Daniel 11:32)
"For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." (1 Corinthians 4:20)
"Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in
signs and wonders and mighty deeds." (2 Corinthians 12:12)
Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle
- my lovingkindness and my fortress, my high tower and my deliverer, my shield and the
One in whom I take refuge, who subdues my people under me." (Psalm 144:1)
"It is God who arms me with strength, and makes my way perfect. He makes my
feet like the feet of deer, and sets me on high places. He teaches my hands to
make war, so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze ... I have pursued my enemies
and overtaken them; neither did I turn back again till they were destroyed. I have wounded
them, so that they were not able to rise; they have fallen under my feet. For You have
armed me with strength for the battle; You have subdued under me those who rose up
against me." (Psalm 18:32,37)

 

[BostonGurka]

.....

God can anoint you with His supernatural power to defeat any enemy that may come
your way - but only if you are willing to step into it and not be afraid to directly engage
with whatever storm cloud is getting ready to come your way.
Notice the first verse tells you that you can have God's power and authority to trample
over "all" the power of the enemy - not just against some or part of his power. This
means you can have God's anointing and power operating in you to come out completely
victorious against any enemy that may attempt to come against you.
God will give you his strength, boldness and courage to walk with his anointing
All of the above Scripture verses are definitely telling you that God can anoint you with
His power whenever that power is going to be needed to take on any kind of enemy or
challenge. However, there is one more thing that you are going to need before God will
release His power through you. And that one more thing is the mental strength, courage
and boldness to step out with His power to use it to directly engage with your enemy.
If you are not willing to step out and flow and operate with God's anointing for whatever
you are going to need it for - then absolutely nothing is going to happen. If you are not
willing to speak out to any enemy that may be trying to attack you - then God's power
will not come into the situation to blow them out of there, and they will thus stay right
where they are at continuing to attack you.
As you will see when reading some of our own personal testimonies - nothing was
happening in all of these adverse situations until that person was ready and willing to
step out of his boat with some mental confidence, courage and boldness to face and take
their enemies head on.
"If you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small." (Proverbs 24:10)
The verse is telling you that if you faint in the day of any kind of adversity, that your
strength will be considered small in the eyes of God.
In other words, God is telling you that He does not want you to be a wimp - and He is
expecting each and every one of us to learn how to war against any enemy or challenge
that could come our way operating under His authority, power and anointing to be able
to do so. This is why we are all called to be soldiers of Jesus Christ, not just a select few.
God will go before you to fight your battles
Sometimes God will simply run a protective shield around you where nothing can get
through to attack you. Other times something will start to slip through to come directly
against you - and then God will move ahead of you to take it out. This is where God will
literally take your enemy head on and do battle with it.
Sometimes God will fight the actual battle through you - other times He will simply tell
you to hold your ground and position and do absolutely nothing - and then He will move
Himself to completely take out the attack coming against you. This is where God shows
you how powerful and how awesome He really is when He moves into battle to personally
protect you.
Again, these next set of verses are extremely powerful as all of the other ones listed
above. Notice the very intense language God is using when these verses describe Him
moving into actual battle for you.
These first two verses are specifically telling us that God can be a Man of War if He
needs to be and that He can actually be stirred up to go into battle for you if He has to.
"The Lord is a man of war; the Lord is His name ... Your Right Hand, O Lord, has become
glorious in power; Your right hand, O Lord, has dashed the enemy in pieces. And in
the greatness of Your excellence you have overthrown those who rose against You; You
sent forth Your wrath which consumed them like stubble." (Exodus 15:3,6)
"The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up His zeal like a man of
war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies."
(Isaiah 42:13)
"For you shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight; for the Lord will go before you,
and the God of Israel will be your rear guard." (Isaiah 52:12)
"Therefore understand today the Lord your God is He who goes before you as a
consuming fire. He will destroy them and bring them down before you; so you shall
drive them out and destroy them quickly, as the Lord has said to you." (Deuteronomy 9:3)
"The eternal God is your refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms; He will thrust
out the enemy from before you, and will say, 'Destroy!' " (Deuteronomy 33:27)
"I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you ..." (Genesis 12:3)
"Plead my cause, O Lord, with those who strive with me; fight against those who fight
against me. Take hold of shield and buckler, and stand up for my help. Also draw out the
spear, and stop those who pursue me. Say to my soul, "I am your salvation." (Psalm 35:1)
"When my enemies turn back, they shall fall and perish at your presence. For You
have maintained my right and my cause; You sat on the throne judging in righteousness."
(Psalm 9:3)
"God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If He does not turn back,
He will sharpen His sword; He bends His bow and makes it ready. He also
prepares for Himself instruments of death; He makes His arrows into fiery shafts."
(Psalm 7:11)
"He will guard the feet of His saints, but the wicked shall be silent in darkness. For by
strength no man shall prevail. The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken in
pieces; from heaven He will thunder against them. The Lord will judge the ends of the
earth. He will give strength to His king, and exalt the horn of His anointed. (1 Samuel 2:9)
"... For we have no power against this great multitude that is coming against us; nor do we
know what to do, but our eyes are upon You ... Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon
Jahaziel ... thus says the Lord to you: 'Do not be afraid nor dismayed because of this
great multitude, for the battle is not yours, but God's ... You will not need to fight
in this battle. Position yourselves, stand still and see the salvation of the Lord,
who is with you, O Judah and Jerusalem!" Do not fear or be dismayed; tomorrow go out
against them, for the Lord is with you." (2 Chronicles 20:12-17)
"Behold, all those who were incensed against you shall be ashamed and disgraced; they
shall be as nothing, and those who strive with you shall perish. You shall seek them
and not find them - those who contend with you. Those who war against you shall
be as nothing, as a nonexistent thing. For I, the Lord your God, will hold your
right hand, saying to you, 'Fear not, I will help you.' " (Isaiah 41:11)
"You marched through the land in indignation; You trampled the nations in anger. You went
forth for the salvation of Your people, for salvation with Your anointed. You struck the
head from the house of the wicked." (Habakkuk 3:12)
Other verses:
"The angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them." (Psalm
34:7)
"For He shall give His angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways." (Psalm 91:11)
"And let the angel of the Lord chase him ... And let the angel of the Lord pursue them ...
Let the destruction come upon him unexpectedly." (Psalm 35:5-8)
"Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place
which I have prepared." (Exodus 23:20)
"Then the Lord commanded the angel, and he returned his sword to its sheath ... but David
could not go before it to inquire of God, for he was afraid of the sword of the angel of the
Lord." (1 Chronicles 21:27, 29)
"And it came to pass on a certain night that the angel of the Lord went out, and killed in
the camp of the Assyrians one hundred and eighty-five thousand; and when the people
arose early in the morning, there were the corpses - all dead." (2 Kings 19:35)
"Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God.
And he was eaten by worms and died." (Acts 12:23)
The last verse shows that sometimes angels can literally appear to you as a normal
human being, usually for the purpose of helping you out with something. There are
countless testimonies from people who have been helped out by angels in a moment of
crisis - and then all of sudden they are gone as quick as they came.
We must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29)
Whenever a human command goes against God's command, we are to obey God.
And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36)
This passage allows for the use of fighting in self-defence.
All who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52)
To use the sword (or any other weapon) carries the greatest responsibility, and it can
indeed be used in self-defence. That is the way I see to balance Luke 22:36 and Matthew
26:52.
Sources:
1. http://www.counterpunch.org/complaint.html
2. Norsk Folkehjelp/NTB-DPA
3. http://www.iacenter.org/warcrime/11_weapn.htm
4. http://www.counterpunch.org/dead.html
Sources:
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/Battle-Verses-of-the-Bible.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/self-defense.html
http://www.loveyourenemies.org/sword.html#start
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25442

 

[BostonGurka]

Ja det har han.

Men jag tror att det är fel att snöa in sig för mycket på ABBs religiösa förehavanden.
Det går inte att förneka att det är GRÖNSAKSODLARE han är!!!

Sugar Beet – essential facts
Sugar beet is a plant whose root contains a high concentration of sucrose. It is grown
commercially for sugar production. The European Union, the United States, and Russia
are the world's three largest sugar beet producers, although only the European Union
and Ukraine are significant exporters of sugar from beets. Beet sugar accounts for 30%
of the world's sugar production.
Culture
Sugar beet is a hardy biennial plant that can be grown commercially in a wide variety of
temperate climates. During its first growing season, it produces a large (1–2 kg) storage
root whose dry mass is 15–20% sucrose by weight. If the plant is not harvested at this
time, then during its second growing season, nutrients in the root will be used to produce
flowers and seeds and the root will decrease in size. In commercial beet production, the
root is harvested after the first growing season.
In most temperate climates, beets are planted in the spring and harvested in the
autumn. At the northern end of its range, growing seasons as short as 100 days
can produce commercially viable sugar beet crops. In warmer climates, such as in
California's Imperial Valley, sugar beets are a winter crop, planted in the autumn and
harvested in the spring.
Sugar beet is one of the most chemical-intensive crops and is a challenging crop to
produce. Sugar beets are highly sensitive to pests, diseases, and weeds from the time of
planting through harvest.
Beets are planted from a small seed; 1 kg of beet seed comprises 100,000 seeds and will
plant over a hectare (10 000 square metres) of ground.
Today, mechanical sowing, herbicide application for weed control and mechanical
harvesting have removed the reliance on numerous workers.
Harvesting is now entirely mechanical. A roto beater uses a series of blades to chop the
leaf and crown (which is high in non-sugar impurities) from the root. The beet harvester
lifts the root, and removes excess soil from the root in a single pass over the field. A
modern harvester is typically able to cover six rows at the same time. The beets are
dumped into trucks as the harvester rolls down the field and delivered to the factory. The
conveyor then removes more soil.
If the beets are to be left for later delivery, they are formed into clamps. Straw bales are
used to shield the beets from the weather. Provided the clamp is well built with the right
amount of ventilation, the beets do not significantly deteriorate. Beets that freeze and
then defrost produce complex carbohydrates that cause severe production problems in
the factory. In the UK, loads may be hand examined at the factory gate before being
accepted.
Crop rotation
Sugar beet is an important part of a rotating crop cycle. Crop rotation is the practice of
growing a series of dissimilar types of crops in the same area in sequential seasons for
various benefits such as to avoid the build up of pathogens and pests that often occurs
when one species is continuously cropped. Crop rotation also seeks to balance the
fertility demands of various crops to avoid excessive depletion of soil nutrients. A
traditional component of crop rotation is the replenishment of nitrogen through the use of
green manure in sequence with cereals and other crops. It is one component of
polyculture. Crop rotation can also improve soil structure and fertility by alternating
deep-rooted and shallow-rooted plants.
Method and purpose – crop rotation
Crop rotation avoids a decrease in soil fertility, as growing the same crop repeatedly in
the same place eventually depletes the soil of various nutrients. A crop that leaches the
soil of one kind of nutrient is followed during the next growing season by a dissimilar
crop that returns that nutrient to the soil or draws a different ratio of nutrients, for
example, rice followed by cotton. By crop rotation farmers can keep their fields under
continuous production, without the need to let them lie fallow, and reducing the need for
artificial fertilisers, both of which can be expensive. Rotating crops adds nutrients to the
soil, and dirt. Legumes, plants of the family Fabaceae, for instance, have nodules on their
roots which contain nitrogen-fixing bacteria. It therefore makes good sense agriculturally
to alternate them with cereals (family Poaceae) and other plants that require nitrates. A
common modern crop rotation is alternating soybeans and maize (corn). In subsistence
farming, it also makes good nutritional sense to grow beans and grain at the same time
in different fields.
Crop rotation is a type of cultural control that is also used to control pests and diseases
that can become established in the soil over time. The changing of crops in a sequence
tends to decrease the population level of pests. Plants within the same taxonomic family
tend to have similar pests and pathogens. By regularly changing the planting location,
the pest cycles can be broken or limited. For example, root-knot nematode is a serious
problem for some plants in warm climates and sandy soils, where it slowly builds up to
high levels in the soil, and can severely damage plant productivity by cutting off
circulation from the plant roots. Growing a crop that is not a host for root-knot nematode
for one season greatly reduces the level of the nematode in the soil, thus making it
possible to grow a susceptible crop the following season without needing soil fumigation.
It is also difficult to control weeds similar to the crop which may contaminate the final
produce. For instance, ergot in weed grasses is difficult to separate from harvested grain.
A different crop allows the weeds to be eliminated, breaking the ergot cycle.
This principle is of particular use in organic farming, where pest control may be achieved
without synthetic pesticides.
A general effect of crop rotation is that there is a geographic mixing of crops, which can
slow the spread of pests and diseases during the growing season. The different crops can
also reduce the effects of adverse weather for the individual farmer and, by requiring
planting and harvest at different times, allow more land to be farmed with the same
amount of machinery and labour.
The choice and sequence of rotation crops depends on the nature of the soil, the climate,
and precipitation which together determine the type of plants that may be cultivated.
Other important aspects of farming such as crop marketing and economic variables must
also be considered when choosing a crop rotation.
Processing - reception
After they are harvested, beets are hauled to a factory. In the U.K., beets are
transported by a hauler, or by a tractor and a trailer by local farmers. Railways and boats
are no longer used.
Each load is weighed and sampled before it gets tipped onto the reception area, typically
a "flat pad" of concrete, where it is moved into large heaps. The beet sample is checked
for:
soil tare - the amount of non beet delivered
•
crown tare - the amount of low sugar beet delivered
•
sugar content ("pol") - amount of sucrose in the crop
•
nitrogen content - for recommending future fertilizer use to the farmer
•
From these elements, the actual sugar content of the load is calculated and the grower's
payment determined.
The beet is moved from the heaps into a central channel or gulley, where it is washed
towards the processing plant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarbeet
Top ten sugar beet producers – 2005 (million metric tons)
France 29
Germany 25
United States 25
Russia 22
Ukraine 16
Turkey 14
Italy 12
Poland 11
United Kingdom 8
Spain 7
World Total 242
Agricultural measurement terminology:
1 hectare is 10 000 square metres
1 hectare equals 2,47 acres, making a hectare almost 2,5 times larger than an acre
Inputs and management practices of sugar beet production, by cost group,
2000
Item Low-cost Mid-cost High-cost
farm farm farm
26 44 49
Irrigation (% of beet hectares)
Previous crop (% of farms)
Wheat 57 26 26
Corn 11 21 32
Soyabeans 0 * *
Other crops 18 26 27
1,63 1,88 1,80
Seed (kg/hectare)
Fertiliser use (% of farms)
Nitrogen 95 98 97
Phosphorus 88 92 90
Potassium 49 57 54

 

[Cykelstyre]

Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!! Har folk uttryckt negativa saker om svensk media!!!!??? Här på SH!!!?! Det lär ju garanterat finnas en jävla massa iskalla massmördare här med andra ord.

Det var ironi. Det tror jag du förstod. Men du gör alltså en sån koppling på fullaste allvar? Det är fan skrämmande.

Ja, det var ju precis vad jag skrev. Massa kallblodiga mördare finns det här på SH för att dom uttrycker liknande saker. Fan vad bra att du som första person precis förstod vad man skrev, trodde inte det skulle framgå. (OBS ironi)

Nej, vad som är skrämmande är att du fullkomligt misstolkar vad man skriver och missar poängen. Jag är dock inte förvånad över att det är just du som gör det. Jag funderade på när ett sånt inlägg/svar skulle komma. Andra verkar förstå och det räcker faktiskt för mig i det här fallet.

 

[Drysen]

Ok, måste iofs varit en jävla massa som ringde till polisen från Utöya. Vilket får mig att undra över om någon även använde mobilen till att filma honom.



Kan ju vara det han var ute efter också. Att få komma till tals i en rättegång alltså. Att döda nån är förstås inte rätt. Än mindre att döda urskiljingslöst. Men frågan kvarstår. Vad är det som driver honom och malmöskytten till att göra såna här saker? Det är ju naturligtvis inte SD:s eller Fremskrittspartiets framgångar som triggar sånt här. Som vissa förnekare försöker få det till. Ett rent idiotiskt påstående. Snarare är väl deras framgångar ett annat uttryck med samma orsak.

Naturligtvis är det en frustration över en ansvarslös politik och ett medieetablissemang och makt som ljuger och förnekar. För det gör de, och om man nu absolut måste söka en orsak till varför vissa dårar nu triggas så bör nog politikerna rannsaka sig själva först innan de så snabbt skyller på andra. Det skulle inte förvåna mig om det faktiskt kommer fler såna här saker, om än i mindre skala, ju längre vanskötseln pågår. Det finns många idioter och psykfall även i Sverige.

Såe, det du menar är att det är Islam som får Grönsaksodlare att gå bärsärk?

 

[Skäggo]

Varför är människor så simpla att dom tror att det skall finnas någon anledning till att en knäppgök som denne finns?

Alltid skall det försökas förklaras med politik, religion osv. Istället för att inse att dom finns, kommer alltid att finnas och inget vi gör kan få dom att försvinna.
Dom behöver ingen anledning, men kommer gladeligen att hävda att det är av den ena eller andra orsaken dom utfört sina dåd.

Att sitta på ett forum och dravla sin skit och sina teorier när nära ett hundratal familjer förlorat sina medlemmar är avskyvärt och respektlöst i alla aspekter.

 

[Drysen]

Varför är människor så simpla att dom tror att det skall finnas någon anledning till att en knäppgök som denne finns?

Alltid skall det försökas förklaras med politik, religion osv. Istället för att inse att dom finns, kommer alltid att finnas och inget vi gör kan få dom att försvinna.
Dom behöver ingen anledning, men kommer gladeligen att hävda att det är av den ena eller andra orsaken dom utfört sina dåd.

Att sitta på ett forum och dravla sin skit och sina teorier när nära ett hundratal familjer förlorat sina medlemmar är avskyvärt och respektlöst i alla aspekter.

Det är klart att det finns en anledning till att knäppgökar finns. En människa vaknar inte bara upp en dag och går bärsärk. Det är något som byggs på under en lång tid. För att ta ett väldigt enkelt exempel. Ett barn som växer upp i en religiös familj blir väldigt ofta religiös.

En människa som växer upp med frustration och ilska kommer tillslut ta ut den här frustrationen och ilskan. I detta fallet verkar det som om han tagit skydd i religionen och skapat sina egna vaneföreställningar och paranoia. Läser man lite i hans "bok" så känns detta som det mest logiska.

Frågan är ju ifall det finns något som man kan göra åt det? Hurvida det är att folk söker skydd i religion och letar efter syndabockar. Finner ett svar hur de ska lösa sitt problem. Är det kanske så att man ska förbjuda religion för att det kan påverka de svagsinnade? Eller beror det hela på en misslyckad invandringspolitik som skapat en frustration? Och i och med det har skapat frustrationen och ilskan?

Jag tror att det är viktigt att diskutera det hela. För det finns många trångsynta som sitter framför sina datorer och inte kommer se hela bilden och kommer fortsätta hävda att det beror på ditten och datten.

Men den viktigaste kommunikationen just nu är nog framför allt att de berörda myndigheterna diskuterar med Anders Behring Breivik för att förstå vad det är som triggat hans handlingar. Och på det viset kanske kan förebygga att det inte händer igen. Kommunikation är nog kanske det viktigaste i världen och så mycket saker här hade kunnat lösas om folk bara hade satt sig ner med öppna sinnen och pratat med varandra.

Just nu verkar det som om att han handlat på eget bevåg. Och vi får hoppas att den här händelsen inte inspirerar andra individer att göra något liknande. För jag tror säkerligen att det sitter både extrema muslimer, kristna och höger extrema anhängare där ute och hyllar detta dåd tyvärr.