Om det mot förmodan skulle ske så vinner den kandidaten som fick lite få röster med överväldigande majoritet i nästföljande val.
Presidentvalet i USA 2008, McCain vs Obama
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Om det mot förmodan skulle ske så vinner den kandidaten som fick lite få röster med överväldigande majoritet i nästföljande val.
För att raskt skriva in sig i historieböckerna som den minst omtyckte presidenten någonsin.
Vilket, om det vore sant, säger mer om alternativet till honom i så fall.
Eller som någon jävla kommunist på SR sade när världens kanske bästa politiker gjorde comeback i Itlie:
Det säger ganska mycket om hur missnöjd man är med rodi om man återinsätter Berlusconi. Kommunist eller inte, om man inte vill ha kerry istället för bush och Bush nu är så impopulär. ja herregud, då hade det väl varit inbördeskrig med en demokrat vid rodret nu.
Låt oss slip sådant trams i år också.
Det är republikanskt och riktig fin högerpolitik som är framtiden. )
Det säger naturligtvis inget om alternativen eftersom mätningarna (som är sanna, jag har länkat till dem ett flertal gånger för din bekvämlighet) mäter presidentens popularitet, och inte de icke valda alternativen.
Denna popularitet kommer sig av, som du säkert vet, en katastrofal utrikespolitik som i mångt och mycket baseras sig på gissningar, lögner och mörkläggningar, en tveksam inrikespolitik som nu toppas av det faktum att finanssektorn i US håller på att haverera totalt samt, (fast nu gissar jag lite) karln ser ju ut som en idiot så fort han får en kamera riktad mot sig och blir ombedd att säga något som inte omfattar
1. Baseboll
2. BBQs
Att du gillar smilfinken är väl föga förvånande, att italienarna gör det är ju mer tragiskt men all går ju som bekant att sälja med mördande reklam. Det faktum att man har fri tillgång till TV-tid kan tydligen hjälpa upp den mest osympatiske politiker. Fursten, anyone?
Nu rör du ihop saker, på vanligt liberalt vis.
Invasionen av det äckliga landet irak inleddes i mars 2003. Några dagar senare stod det klart att sådana länder kan inte bygga försvarsmakt, oljemiljarder eller ej. Känns förvisso bra. Men men, ganska snart fick vi veta att Blix & C
ljugit ihop om poåstådda massförstörelsevapen. 20 månader senare är det omval och du påstår att man då väljer om Bush, trots att han är så oerhört impopulär på grund av lögnerna, men det går ju inte ihop. Om han vore så impopulär hade han inte valts om, speciellt inte då han hade en så kompetent motståndare. 
Att skylla (delar av) finanssektorns kollaps på Bushadministrationen är ju lika seriöst som när Mona säger att lågkonjunkturen i Sverige beror på Reinfeldt inkl idiotregering. Om du ändå menar det på allvar så ser jag i alla fall fram emot att få se någon typ av förklaring till vad det är du menar att nuvarande regering möjliggjort som Clintons regering hade stoppat, eller ännu bättre: vad sopan Kerry eller populisten Gore hade gjort annorlunda för att rädda situationen.
Sedan är det så typiskt med vänstergnäll att påstå att berlusconi vinner bara för att han äger tv-kanaler, det har inte slagit dig att folk kanske inte tycker som du och att de gillar honom och hans politik? Typiskt Jan Myrdal-attityd att folket inte förstår sitt eget bästa, det är precis det som är den största skiljelinjen mellan höger och vänster i min värld, vänstern tycker alltid att de vet lite bättre än alla andra medan högern är tjänar folket. Klassikt exempel är ju överskottet som Reagan föreslog skulle delas ut till skattebetalarna
´Herregud vad jag är poetisk och filosfisk. Och kunnig framför allt.
Jag påstår inte att han var impopulär då. Han är det nu.
Jag kan ge dig att jag inte var speciellt allvarlig i denna delen.
... Jan Myrdal-attityd ...
´Herregud vad jag är poetisk och filosfisk. Och kunnig framför allt.
Ahhh, guilty by association, me like!
Smilfink är och förblir en ansiktslyft
mupp.
Ja, men du påstår att han är impopulär på grund av, citat:
Denna popularitet kommer sig av, som du säkert vet, en katastrofal utrikespolitik som i mångt och mycket baseras sig på gissningar, lögner och mörkläggningar slut citat.
Så, vilken utrikespolitik är det du syftar på - som praktiserats efter valet i november 2004?
Samma som han har tillämpat hela tiden. Att jänkarna behövde en mandatperiod (eller en halv, han har ju varit fail en längre tid nu...) säger mer om medeljänken än något annat.
Nä, nu svamlar du. Tror inte vi ska börja kategorisera in människor i olika fack beroende på ursprung. Det är för övrigt en övning du kommer förlora med din nuvarande ståndpunkt då USA är den mest utvecklade civilisationen någonsin. Det uppnår man inte med ett gäng dumskallar.
Faktum är att i takt med att de blivit ödmjukare utrikespolitiskt så har populariteten dalat. Avväpna Iran nu och USA förblir republikanskt i kanske tre mandatperioder till.
Frågan är om Era gelikar tycker det samma?
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Det där handlar ju om muslimer, inte om ursprung.
En helt annan diskussion.
Förvisso fett intressant.
Jaha, det blev slarvsylta av Hussein II i fredagens debatt. 
Till exempel kunde inte Obama förklara varför han vill slösa bort mer pengar:
“Senator Obama has the most liberal voting record in the United States Senate. It’s hard to reach across the aisle from that far left,” McCain said, casting himself as the scourge of pork-barrel spenders and accusing Obama of heedlessly requesting nearly $1 billion in earmarks in his first Senate term.
Till exempel kunde inte Obama förklara varför han vill slösa bort mer pengar:
“Senator Obama has the most liberal voting record in the United States Senate. It’s hard to reach across the aisle from that far left,” McCain said, casting himself as the scourge of pork-barrel spenders and accusing Obama of heedlessly requesting nearly $1 billion in earmarks in his first Senate term.
BostonGurka
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Det där handlar ju om muslimer, inte om ursprung.
En helt annan diskussion.
Förvisso fett intressant.
Precis, väldigt intressant!
Rasprofilering är ett effektivt och nödvändigt vapen i kampen mot terrorismen!
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Om det där var det enda liberalerna har att komma med så är valet så gott som vunnet för De Goda.
Angående Obama (aka Barry)
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, a fter his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my c hildren would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, wh ich he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill &Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which Rezko's firm. R ezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed mone y" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home i n Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he ge t the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. S he is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On=2 0Sep tember 7, 2008, The W ashington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - "Beware of the enemy from within"!!!
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, a fter his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my c hildren would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, wh ich he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill &Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which Rezko's firm. R ezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed mone y" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home i n Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he ge t the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. S he is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On=2 0Sep tember 7, 2008, The W ashington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - "Beware of the enemy from within"!!!
Vaddå?! Menar du att du stödjer Usama? Flåt, Obama? Han hänger ju med terrorister!! Han har ju dessutom gått på värsta muslimska terrorskolan som barn!
Origins: The above-quoted piece combines a good deal of supposition and some elaborate conspiracy theory to question exactly where Senator Barack Obama obtained the money for his education and the purchase of a house in Chicago in 2005. The answers are fairly straightforward.
As both Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, have noted many times, they paid for their educations via scholarships and student loans, in the process (like many people) incurring debts which were not fully paid off until many years later. (In the Obamas' case, it was the revenue derived from Barack's pair of best-selling books that finally allowed them to retire their student loan debts.)
Likewise, the Obamas' financing of their house in Chicago was no mystery. As their tax returns demonstrate, the couple had a significant jump in income from 2000 onwards (largely from royalties on book sales), and they purchased their Chicago home in 2005, a year in which their combined income was $1.6 million:
The Obamas' best financial year came in 2005, when their total combined income was $1.6 million. That included $1.2 million in author fees for Obama's best-selling books. Michelle Obama's salary that year was $316,962 plus another $45,000 from TreeHouse Foods.
It is true that Antoin (Tony) Rezko's wife bought the lot adjacent to the Obamas' home (the lot had also belonged to the house's previous owner) and then sold the Obamas a portion of that lot for a price proportionate to what she paid for the entire property.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/0...aracks-book-sales-paid-off-our-student-loans/
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp
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